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term='Overland'/><title type='text'>Comments on The Overland Examiner: Council Meeting 09-24-2007</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/feeds/8878461256722297193/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html'/><author><name>Overland Sailor</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='30' height='32' src='http://farm1.static.flickr.com/103/367145488_1f2d1899ed_o.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>8</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-3719853714535317171</id><published>2007-10-03T22:00:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-10-03T22:00:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks for telling me there is a difference betwee...</title><content type='html'>Thanks for telling me there is a difference between City Adm and City Manager.  Would Overland be hiring a City Administrator because we are a third class city?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;   M. Schneider says Herman will have something about trash help for needy residents at the next council meeting.  Why isn't there a discussion about 'WHAT' Herman is working on?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;   Because I sat in on ALL COGG meetings and never once did any one tell me that Mike Schneider was planning to run for mayor, perhaps I am / should be suspicious of Mike Schneider and his group. The story is that Mike planned to run for mayor from Oct, 06. I was a foot soldier in gathering signatures for the recall and then going back to encourage the petition signers to vote. &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;After the recall I was asked to help in Mike's campaign.  NO!  I saw Mike sit in silence and let Jerry May and Jeff O'Connell do all the hard work of dealing with the last of Purzner and her group.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am no longer a member of COGG. Mark Giroux calling MBC's tax question / elibility about Schneiders nonpayment of his personal property a "dirty trick" without giving her a chance to reply is inexcusable.  COGG should be named:  Citizens of Overland for Mike Schneider&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;SUSPIOUS?  Yes!! There is NO work and no mention of contacting East-West Gateway Council of Governments for involvement in finding a City Administrator.  Or, for that matter, there is no mention of a City Administrator.  WHY? Is the salary for a CA in the budget for this year?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/3719853714535317171'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/3719853714535317171'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html?showComment=1191466800000#c3719853714535317171' title=''/><author><name>Looklisten</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03182601888903286146</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-8878461256722297193' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/posts/default/8878461256722297193' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-359788900'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-9162636654010153148</id><published>2007-10-01T16:36:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-10-01T16:36:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The problem with the "nip it in the bud" approach ...</title><content type='html'>The problem with the "nip it in the bud" approach in this instance, in my opinion, is that the only way to accomplish this is to accuse someone of wrong-doing before they even do anything.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;If the nominations are handled with cronyism then that called and pointed out to the public.  However, if the nominations are handled crossing local political lines and the like, then saying this is what is going to happen not only calling into question the credibility of the person saying it, but it widens the chasm between the political sides.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As for a "City Manager", we do not have the form of government that calls for or allows for one.  Our City is setup for a &lt;B&gt;City Administrator&lt;/B&gt; which is different, though similar (&lt;I&gt;I'm not trying to pick on you or split hairs, I am only trying to clarify the discussion&lt;/I&gt;).   And yes, I fully agree that people should make sure that their Council representatives know how important filling the City Administrator position is to them.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/9162636654010153148'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/9162636654010153148'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html?showComment=1191274560000#c9162636654010153148' title=''/><author><name>Overland Sailor</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12801651499053477245</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='30' height='32' src='http://farm1.static.flickr.com/103/367145488_1f2d1899ed_o.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-8878461256722297193' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/posts/default/8878461256722297193' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1792596534'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-5047926358195144258</id><published>2007-10-01T14:11:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-10-01T14:11:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>ORT - You are correct - Jesus did say,"Give to Cae...</title><content type='html'>ORT - You are correct - Jesus did say,"Give to Caesar what is Caesars...." In this case: Dill's real estate tax and Schneider's personal property tax.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;M. Schenider is going away from the plans to engage East-West Gateway Council of Governments to find a City Manager. The CM is the person that should chair the Overland Master Plan, NOT Mark Giroux. Council members and citizens should fill this committee, NOT by the cronyism of M. Schneider and Mark Giroux which equals the ole politico system that got Overland into the mess we have today. LOOK AT DOWNTOWN.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;City Manager's are educated to lead citizens in how to look at their city and are educated to speak with prospective businesses and business projects.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Overland citizens must realize that M. Schneider is NOT educated for the C.M. job.  FURTHERMORE, M. Schneider was away from Overland for 20 years - only back for 2 years, he has MISSED a lot in 20 year which is not gained by a few visits.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Mark Giroux travels a lot through the week.  He missed COGG meetings.&lt;BR/&gt;COGG has become representative of the old politico system with its cronyism.  Les Dills got M. Schneider to run for Ward 4 councilman -  an example.  Now Les Dill is appointed by Schneider for the Ward 4 council position.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Unless we get the attention of the Council, we will have SAME O, SAME O in Overland.  &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Call, write - both - Overland Council electorate and remind them of the need for a City Manager.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/5047926358195144258'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/5047926358195144258'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html?showComment=1191265860000#c5047926358195144258' title=''/><author><name>Looklisten</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03182601888903286146</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-8878461256722297193' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/posts/default/8878461256722297193' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-359788900'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-4756398403018341312</id><published>2007-10-01T08:46:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-10-01T08:46:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>A good Christian?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Doesn't Jesus say &lt;i&gt;rend...</title><content type='html'>A good Christian?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Doesn't Jesus say &lt;I&gt;render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's&lt;/I&gt; in regards to paying taxes?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Perhaps Les Dills views Jesus and his 12 disciples as some sort of divine cronyism?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/4756398403018341312'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/4756398403018341312'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html?showComment=1191246360000#c4756398403018341312' title=''/><author><name>ORT Contrarian</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10186148907865027008</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-8878461256722297193' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/posts/default/8878461256722297193' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-300941285'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-9105981252518259740</id><published>2007-10-01T08:44:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-10-01T08:44:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The "wait and see" approach in the past has gotten...</title><content type='html'>The "wait and see" approach in the past has gotten us where we are--nowhere!  We need to have a "nip it in the bud" approach, because often while you are waiting to see, time and opportunity to stop the shenanigans have passed us by.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/9105981252518259740'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/9105981252518259740'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html?showComment=1191246240000#c9105981252518259740' title=''/><author><name>ORT Contrarian</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10186148907865027008</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-8878461256722297193' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/posts/default/8878461256722297193' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-300941285'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-4822696554810306460</id><published>2007-09-30T16:10:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-30T16:10:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>I understand concerns about how this committee to ...</title><content type='html'>I understand concerns about how this committee to work on the master plan will be formed, and to whom it will answer to.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I'm taking a "wait and see" approach to it.   This is a public body that will be considering public issues including recommendations that could result is city spending.  As such, at a minimum, meetings of this group should be posted and publicly accessible in my opinion.   Will it be run that way?  I hope so, but for now it's still "wait and see" time.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/4822696554810306460'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/4822696554810306460'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html?showComment=1191186600000#c4822696554810306460' title=''/><author><name>Overland Sailor</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12801651499053477245</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='30' height='32' src='http://farm1.static.flickr.com/103/367145488_1f2d1899ed_o.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-8878461256722297193' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/posts/default/8878461256722297193' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1792596534'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-6001198187105285079</id><published>2007-09-28T23:16:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-28T23:16:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>Les Dills paid taxes for lot(s) in a nearby uninco...</title><content type='html'>Les Dills paid taxes for lot(s) in a nearby unincorporated area the weekend before M. Schneider appointed Dills to have his seat on the Overland Council. TAXES owed for THREE years.&lt;BR/&gt;  Dills sounds like M. Schneider, supposed to be a businessman, but failed to check Missouri law about personal property tax and MO license for his Yukon.&lt;BR/&gt;  Les Dills didn't bother to mow or have mowed the lot(s) in a residential neighborhood.  It is easy to get by with this apparently in an unincorporated area.&lt;BR/&gt;  M. Schneider sent out a letter to get elected that "the judge did not tell him to pay taxes on the Yukon."  BUT, he failed to mention that the tax collector did:  The POST-DISPATCH reported that M. Scheider "paid $850 under protest."&lt;BR/&gt;When ALL the truth is not told - then is this a lie??&lt;BR/&gt;  Les Dills told the person in MVE who asked him about the taxes he owed that they "were not a good neighbor or a good Christian." This person went to the tax office in Clayton to vertify the info they had seen on a blog about the 3 years of unpaid taxes on the property.&lt;BR/&gt;  The whole council voted for Les Dills to have M. Schneider's seat in Ward 4.  &lt;BR/&gt;  This sounds like what happened in 2006 when Purnzer and her group got a lawyer and told the East-West Gateway Council of governments representative "to cease and desist" from assisting in the hiring of the City Administrator the council approved and had been shown around Overland by the officers of the Overland Business Assoc.  &lt;BR/&gt;  DODY and the OVERLAND COUNCIL did NOTHING. No wonder Purnzer and her group thought they could do all they tried to do from April 2006 until the recall.  Read the Overland Council minutes for yourself.&lt;BR/&gt;  Mark Giroux, president of COGG, is now the person M. Schneider appointed to redo the master plan for our city with the help of whomever HE CHOOSES. &lt;BR/&gt;  This SAME Mark Giroux in a COGG meeting called MBC questioning the nonpayment of personal property, thus elibility to run for mayor of Overland, a "dirty trick." &lt;BR/&gt;  WHO and how many WHOS are running this city and for whose gain? This is the dirty trick!! Overland and its government is for ALL who live here.&lt;BR/&gt;  WILL Overland get a city administrator and with WHOSE approval? Cities around us, Bridgeton and St. John, have city administrators.  Look at the NEW retail and other business these cities have. &lt;BR/&gt;  M. Schneider did not get a majority of the votes CAST. Why did Keller to a non run for mayor?&lt;BR/&gt;  Citizens of Overland - BEWARE!&lt;BR/&gt;Look - listen - call your council member or ----------- we will see and suffer.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/6001198187105285079'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/6001198187105285079'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html?showComment=1191039360000#c6001198187105285079' title=''/><author><name>Looklisten</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03182601888903286146</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-8878461256722297193' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/posts/default/8878461256722297193' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-359788900'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-5064573446783054215</id><published>2007-09-25T10:55:00.000-05:00</published><updated>2007-09-25T10:55:00.000-05:00</updated><title type='text'>The council should be ashamed of themselves.  The ...</title><content type='html'>The council should be ashamed of themselves.  The "opening of the process" was a sham.   Why put us through that horse-and-pony workshop when the mayor ended up picking the one that came out the worst?  (An opinion I heard from even those who supported Dills after the workshop). &lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;There is compromise and there is comprosing your position.  Unfortunately, a few on the council chose the latter.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/5064573446783054215'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/8878461256722297193/comments/default/5064573446783054215'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html?showComment=1190735700000#c5064573446783054215' title=''/><author><name>suzyjax</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12689079258215882563</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='19' height='32' src='http://www.suzanne-jackson.com/images/sdjb.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://overlandexaminer.org/2007/09/council-meeting-09-24-2007.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30502767.post-8878461256722297193' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/30502767/posts/default/8878461256722297193' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-716161368'/></entry></feed>
