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Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Candidate Forums

This past weekend, Councilperson Schneider held a Candidate forum Friday evening and Councilperson Conlon held a forum Saturday morning. We were allowed to "tape" both of these events and present them here for your review. To the best of my knowledge, Councilperson Keller has not held a similar event. Should she choose to do so I would gladly "tape" that event and present it here as well (assuming she allowed me to do so).

With the new video hosting service we are using it works better to present the video's as you see them rather than side by side as they appeared before. They appear in the order the forums happened The videos will take a few moments to start running once you click on them. Please be patient as I think you'll agree that the quality improvement is well worth the short delay.


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Councilperson Schneider's
June 15th Candidate Forum:


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Councilperson Conlon's
June 16th Candidate Forum:


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Both events were well attended by Overland residents. It appeared to me that approximately a third of those in attendance were at both meetings. Overall it is great to see this many people coming out to research the candidates so early in the process.

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Monday, June 11, 2007

Fishing Derby a huge Success

Derby winners Ryan Adams (10-15), Kyle Willet (5-9) & Anna Rose Wilson (under 5)

The City of Overland and the Overland Business Association held a Kids Fishing Derby on June 9th at Wild Acres Park. 180 Children participated which shattered last years attendance of around 65 kids. A host of local businesses and personalities sponsored the event including: CarStar, Edward Jones (on Lackland), the City of Overland, Councilperson Mike Schneider, Young Auto, North Central Hobbies, B.J. Peerless Restaurant Supply, Cabela's, City Clerk Linda Downs, Major Trophy (on Page), and the Overland Business Association.

There were 3 age categories: Under 5, 5-10 years old and 10-15. A winner for each age group was determined by the total weight of fish caught (measured on a fantastic digital scale donated by B.J. Peerless). In the under 5 category Anna Rose Wilson caught a total of 4lbs, 1 1/4 oz winning the under 5 category. She was awarded a 1st place trophy (donated by Major Trophy), A fishing rod/real combo (donated in part by Cabela's at the Mills), and a $25 Dollar gift certificate to Target (donated by City Clerk Linda Downs). The winner of the 5 - 10 age group was Kyle Willett with a total catch of 8lbs, 3 1/4 oz which was also the largest catch of the day in any age group. In the 10-15 age group Ryan Adams won the day with a total catch of 7lbs 11 1/2 oz. The winners of both the 5-10 and the 10-15 age groups were awarded a 1st place trophy (donated by Major Trophy), A fishing rod/real combo (donated in part by Cabela's at the Mills) and a Mountain bike (donated by the Overland Police D.A.R.E. program).

The kids had a beautiful day at the lake for the Derby

The weather was fantastic all day, which was great considering all of the events that were happening in Overland on Saturday. Adding to the beauty of the day was oldies music heard all over the park. At the Seminary property a local 4 man band called the Melody Men were playing for both Discover Overland and the Kid's fishing derby. In the interest of full disclosure, I need to mention that My Father-in-law and brother-in-law are both in this group (and I've known the other 2 members for a few years as well) so as you might have guessed I think they're great! You can check them out for yourself:

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There were far too many people involved in bringing this event together to name all of them. Chuck Boone, Chief Herron, David Sippe and Mary Anderson from Edward Jones on Lackland and Bill Egsieker from North Central Hobbies all spearheaded this event with critical support on Saturday from Linda Downs, Councilman Schneider, Tom Eckert, Jackie Chandler and former Mayor Bob Dody who handled the BBQ. This was a flawless effort made possible by the City of Overland, the Overland Business Association and Overland Residents all working together perfectly.

Hopefully this is a example of what we can expect in the future, that being the three "C"s, Communication, Cooperation and Citizen Involvement. When we get to where this level of teamwork is an expected, everyday occurrence I believe we'll find we can get anywhere.

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Saturday, June 09, 2007

Saturday June 9th is here

This is a repost on an earlier article. Hopefully everyone will be able to make most if not all of these events. I will be at most of them so feel free to say hello if you see me running around. Have fun today!


Overland is about to have a very busy Saturday. There are a host of events coming up this Saturday. The following is a list of those events so that you can hopefully plan your day and evening as to not miss any of them:

Huge Rummage Sale
The Overland Historical Society will be holding a huge Rummage sale on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 starting at 8:00AM at the Historic Log Cabin site (9711 Lackland Road). This is going to be a big one folks so all you garage sale junkies and curb side archaeologists out there should run on over and get your fix.


Fishing Derby
There will be a kids fishing Tournament on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 from 9:00AM to 11:00AM at the Wild Acres Park Lake (10400 Midland Blvd). There will be great prizes for the winners in three different age groups so make sure to register your child for the tournament at Overland Hardware (2520 Woodson Road) today!


Discover Overland
The Overland Business Association will be holding a business expo with many local companies, churches and organizations to meet on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 from 10:00AM to 2:00PM at the Wild Acres Seminary gym (2500 Ashby Road). There will be Live Music, BBQ and more. The Overland Historic Society will also be giving tours of the Seminary property Mansion for all those interested in taking a walk through the past.

Rock, Paper, Scissors Tournament
The Overland Lions Club will be holding a fund raiser for Kaysa O'Brien (currently battling cancer) in the form of a Rock, Paper, Scissors Tournament at Lion's Hall (2358 Lackland Road) on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 from 3:00PM to 9:00PM. Yes, it really is that game you played as a kid and there are even going to be cash prizes for the winners! The cost of the tournament is $10.00 per person but the field will be limited to 64 players so get there early. The BBQ costs $25.00 a person and that includes admission, beer, soda, & BBQ (remember to save room for Skeeter's). There will be music, dancing, raffles and a whole lot more! For more information: click here.

Skeeter's 20th Anniversary
Skeeter's Frozen Custard (9622 Lackland Rd), an Overland Institution, will be holding a 20th anniversary celebration on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 from 6:00PM to 8:00PM. There will be a clown, a magician and a fire truck from Community there for kids. They also plan to announce two new concrete flavors that evening! If this announcement makes you feel old, rest assured, you're not the only one. Whatever else you do in Overland on the 9th, make sure to stop by Skeeter's because everything is better with frozen custard.


OK Overland, starting getting your plans in order as you have a lot of running around coming this weekend. I fully expect to spend Sunday recovering from eating way too much throughout the day Saturday (and I seriously doubt I'll be alone in this).

If I missed anything, or if you have something to add about these events please feel free to take advantage of the comments and tell us all about it.


Now get up and get out there Overland, there is too much to do on this beautiful day to sit around at home!

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Thursday, June 07, 2007

"Get out of jail free" cards available (sorta)

It's more like get out of jail at a reduced price but it's still a great deal.


The Overland Municipal Court is offering a Warrant Amnesty Program from June 11th to August 31st, 2007.

Do you have an unresolved issue in Overland? No reason to drive around with the worry of being stopped and arrested anymore. Just get in touch with the court and get the issue resolved ASAP. For more information you can view the Municipal Court Press Release. You can also contact the Court at: (314) 428-1224, Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m.

If you've had an outstanding issue that you were not sure how to resolve the court just gave you an out so take advantage of it. If you don't contact the court you'll still risk being taken into custody, have to post bond, etc. during this time period.

I know the jail looked pretty spiffy when Tim Ezell was in locked up in there but I would not advise treating it like an extended stay hotel if you can avoid it.

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Wednesday, June 06, 2007

Follow up: More Legal Trouble in Overland

As we reported in the earlier article, Councilperson Mary Beth Conlon filed a "petition to disqualify a candidate for election" in the Circuit Court of St. Louis County against Councilperson Mike Schneider over the upcoming Mayoral election in August.

The basic argument suggests that Mr. Schneider does not meet the qualifications to run for Mayor either because he has not been a resident long enough (backed by a claim in the petition that Mr. Schneider told the St. Louis County Collector of Revenue that he did not become a resident of Missouri until February 2006), or if he was a resident at that time he should have been liable for those personal property taxes he received a waiver for.

The first part of that argument is based on 110.010 of the Overland Ordinances and 77.230 of Missouri's Revised Statutes, which require that a candidate for Mayor be a resident of Overland for a minimum of 2 years before the election.

The second part of that argument refers to:
Missouri Revised Statutes - Chapter 115 - Election Authorities and conduct of Elections - Section 115.346 - Persons in arrears for municipal taxes or fees shall not be candidates for municipal office, when:

Notwithstanding any other provisions of law to the contrary, no person shall be certified as a candidate for a municipal office, nor shall such person's name appear on the ballot as a candidate for such office, who shall be in arrears for any unpaid city taxes or municipal user fees on the last day to file a declaration of candidacy for the office.
This basically means that if you are not paid up on your taxes by the last day you can file to run for office, you cannot be a candidate. This is further referenced in 115.342 of the Missouri Revised Statutes (thanks for the tip Suzyjax).

On the surface this looks pretty clear cut. Either you were a resident in August 2005 and thus can run for office or you were not. If you were a resident at that time you should have paid personal property taxes on your vehicle(s) and not received a waiver. However, it gets more complicated than that.

First, I learned that you are only liable for taxes on real or personal property if you owned it on January 1st of that tax year according to 137.075 of the Missouri revised statutes. So, unless Councilperson Schneider was a resident of Missouri and the owner of record on these vehicles on January 1st 2005 he would not have been liable for that year. Since the focus here is the August 2005 date and Councilman Schneider apparently moved into his home on Chaucer around February / March 2005, it looks like the 2005 tax year is out.

When it comes to the residency issue, that hasn't been clear cut in Missouri since 1972. Back then, Kit Bond filed for a primary run for Governor and his candidacy was challenged based on the belief that he had not been a resident of Missouri for the 10 years leading up to the election as required. The Court considered the fact that he had been out of state to attend college, to clerk for a judge, to work for a law firm and possibly even filed as a resident in Atlanta Georgia. However, since he had maintained ties with his home town, his church, civic groups, returned most holidays and consistently expressed his desire to return home once he had legal experience, the Supreme Court of Missouri ultimately ruled in King v. Walsh, 484 S.W.2d, 641 (Mo. banc 1972) that Kit Bond did meet the residency requirements and could run even though he had spent the majority of about 5 of those 10 years prior to the election living and working out of state.

I didn't find a direct link to this case (if anyone finds one please pass it along and I will add it to this article) however I did find an Attorney General's Opinion written by William L. Webster in 1985 on a similar issue. This opinion specifically references King v. Walsh.

There is also a local connection to this issue. Around 1985 a Candidate for Alderman in Overland had his residency challenged. As I understand it, the City Clerk at the time went to the address in Clayton that this candidate had changed his driver's license (but not his voter registration) to and that candidate answered the door in a robe or towel. There was a deposition from the candidate's parents (whose home he claimed to live in) where they described the room their son claimed to live in as full of shelves they used for storing canned goods. There was more but you get the idea. Even with this significant evidence the judge ruled in favor of the challenged candidate. The Judge's decision has been characterized locally by the phrase "home is where the heart is" and likely referenced King v. Walsh as well (if anyone finds an article or a direct link to this case / decision please pass the info along so I can add it to this article).

Ultimately, in the State of Missouri, Residency is not a clear cut issue.

Now on the surface it would seem that if you were a resident you would be liable for personal property taxes on your vehicle(s). However, that would depend on if you were the owner of record for the vehicle(s) in question.

We were able to contact Councilperson Schneider today. Mr. Schneider stated that his company, Lakewood Party Supplies, remained in operation in Minnesota because "it takes time to shut down a business" and the lease on the building the company was operating from did not end until July of 2006. Mr. Schneider further stated that the vehicles were owned by the company until that time when he transferred ownership of the vehicles to himself. Assuming this is accurate (and we've seen nothing to the contrary at this time) it is hard to see how you could be held liable for Missouri Personal Property Taxes on a vehicle or vehicles that were owned by a Minnesota company at the time.

I talked at length with Councilperson Schneider on this issue. He said "I feel I did everything honestly and correctly to the best of my ability". Mr. Schneider seemed a bit frustrated which was understandable considering this came up during his vacation, but despite this frustration he was very pleasant. We ended the conversation with Mr. Schneider saying, "I just want a clean, professional election".

Councilperson Mary Beth Conlon, who filed this suit, told us "This is not personal, it is just about the rules and the integrity of the Mayor's office". Though she declined to comment on the specifics of the case, she did say "The citizens of Overland Mandated six weeks ago that they want good government and to have the city follow the rules".

Councilperson Keller, the only one of the candidates not involved in this issue, would seem to like to keep it that way. She said "This is between Mary Beth Conlon and Mike Schneider and I'm not going to get involved in it". Mrs. Keller was very pleasant saying that she has no issues with either of the candidates involved. "I hope the judge makes a fair and proper ruling" said Keller while expressing concern as to whether or not this issue could be resolved before the election.

It seems this case is far from as clear cut as it originally seemed. Ultimately it looks like it will come down to the property tax issue and who was the owner of record of the vehicles in question as well as what evidence the claim that Councilperson Schneider told the county department of revenue he had not become a resident before February 2006 is based on.

We don't expect more to develop on this story until the case is heard in court. If at all possible we will attend that hearing and report on it to our readers.

The comments are open and I'm sure there are those who will disagree with a number of things in this article so, whether you agree, disagree or just have something to add click the comments link below and add your thoughts.

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Tuesday, June 05, 2007

More Legal Trouble in Overland

Mike O'Connell of KMOV Channel 4 just reported (June 5th, 2007 10:00PM news) that Councilperson Mary Beth Conlon filed suit against Councilperson Mike Schneider over the Mayoral election. You can see that report here (membership on KMOV's site may be required to access this page).

The focus of the lawsuit seems to be concerns about Councilperson Schneider's residency and whether or not he has been officially a resident of Overland for two years or more as is required to run for Mayor in Overland. For your review:


Overland Statutes - Article 1 - Mayor - Section: 110.010 - Qualifications
No person shall be Mayor unless he/she is be at least thirty (30) years of age, a citizen of the United States and a resident of such City at the time of and for two (2) years next preceding his/her election. When two (2) or more persons shall have an equal number of votes for the office of Mayor, the matter shall be determined by the Council.
Missouri Revised Statutes - Chapter 77 - Third Class Cities - Section: 77.230 - Qualifications of mayor.
No person shall be mayor unless he be at least thirty years of age, a citizen of the United States and a resident of such city at the time of and for two years next preceding his election. When two or more persons shall have an equal number of votes for the office of mayor, the matter shall be determined by the council.


Though I am all about law and order, I also understand that residency is a very hard thing to disprove. If memory serves this issue came up years ago in Overland and though those who told me about this bit of history were convinced the case questioning that Councilman's residency was successfully made, the Judge ultimately ruled in favor of that councilman. Some have described that ruling as being similar to the "home is where the heart is" cliche (if anyone has first hand knowledge of this case please feel free to email me about it or add this information to the comments below).

According to KMOV's coverage, the lawsuit references Councilperson Schneider's 2007 personal property tax bill which appeared to include a non-resident waiver for the 2005 and 2007 property tax years. I imagine this could be sufficient evidence to support Councilperson Conlon's suit, however it's also likely that a reasonable explanation exists.

We'll attempt to contact all three candidates tomorrow morning (as it is a bit late in the evening to be calling people) to get their take on this issue and will update you should we learn anything new.

Ultimately it looks like Overland politics will be played out in the courts once again.

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Celebrity Locked up in Overland

On June 5th , 2007 Tim Ezell that "hard hitting reporter" at Fox2 in the morning was "taken into custody" by the Overland Police department (not really).


Tim Ezell of Fox2


For the full story visit FOX2's website by clicking here. Be sure not to miss the side bar with the other two videos associated with this story. For more random ramblings, photos and fun you can also check out Tim's Blog called "TimsMorningSickness".

This was another in a long series of stunts Tim is known for. This time, he marginally took on the roll of Paris Hilton to explore what it would be like to be a spoiled debutante in prison.

One interesting side note is the wonderful condition of our jail facilities. Awhile back a rumor circulated across local internet sites claiming our jail was horrible, nasty, etc. While this was no surprise inspection it seems clear that our facility is in good working order and well maintained.

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Monday, June 04, 2007

Get Ready Overland, June 9th is Busy!!

Overland is about to have a very busy Saturday. There are a host of events coming up this Saturday. The following is a list of those events so that you can hopefully plan your day and evening as to not miss any of them:

Huge Rummage Sale
The Overland Historical Society will be holding a huge Rummage sale on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 starting at 8:00AM at the Historic Log Cabin site (9711 Lackland Road). This is going to be a big one folks so all you garage sale junkies and curb side archaeologists out there should run on over and get your fix.


Fishing Derby
There will be a kids fishing Tournament on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 from 9:00AM to 11:00AM at the Wild Acres Park Lake (10400 Midland Blvd). There will be great prizes for the winners in three different age groups so make sure to register your child for the tournament at Overland Hardware (2520 Woodson Road) today!


Discover Overland
The Overland Business Association will be holding a business expo with many local companies, churches and organizations to meet on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 from 10:00AM to 2:00PM at the Wild Acres Seminary gym (2500 Ashby Road). There will be Live Music, BBQ and more. The Overland Historic Society will also be giving tours of the Seminary property Mansion for all those interested in taking a walk through the past.

Rock, Paper, Scissors Tournament
The Overland Lions Club will be holding a fund raiser for Kaysa O'Brien (currently battling cancer) in the form of a Rock, Paper, Scissors Tournament at Lion's Hall (2358 Lackland Road) on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 from 3:00PM to 9:00PM. Yes, it really is that game you played as a kid and there are even going to be cash prizes for the winners! The cost of the tournament is $10.00 per person but the field will be limited to 64 players so get there early. The BBQ costs $25.00 a person and that includes admission, beer, soda, & BBQ (remember to save room for Skeeter's). There will be music, dancing, raffles and a whole lot more! For more information: click here.

Skeeter's 20th Anniversary
Skeeter's Frozen Custard (9622 Lackland Rd), an Overland Institution, will be holding a 20th anniversary celebration on Saturday, June 9th, 2007 from 6:00PM to 8:00PM. There will be a clown, a magician and a fire truck from Community there for kids. They also plan to announce two new concrete flavors that evening! If this announcement makes you feel old, rest assured, you're not the only one. Whatever else you do in Overland on the 9th, make sure to stop by Skeeter's because everything is better with frozen custard.


OK Overland, starting getting your plans in order as you have a lot of running around coming this weekend. I fully expect to spend Sunday recovering from eating way too much throughout the day Saturday (and I seriously doubt I'll be alone in this).

If I missed anything, or if you have something to add about these events please feel free to take advantage of the comments and tell us all about it.

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Friday, June 01, 2007

Council Considers 8801 Page Redevelopment

(Satellite Picture thanks to Google Maps)

On May 29th, 2007 the Overland City Council met in the Council Chambers with Mr. Cozad and others to consider the proposed tax abatement for the 8801 Redevelopment project. We covered this Redevelopment project at length a few months ago in this article.

According the developer they had not made any changes to the Redevelopment plan or agreement since the last meeting with the City. Their intent of this meeting was to simply discuss the plan with the new Council and determine what the best ways to move forward might be.

The following is that meeting in its entirety. (FYI: we've reverted back to hosting videos in Google until we can address some technical issues we were having with the service we experimented with earlier):


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We apologize for the sound quality of this video. The acoustics of the Council Chambers are not very good due to the ventilation system. Usually this is overcome with the room's sound system, though there are some issues with using it at this time. We're continuing to try to clean up this audio and explore ways to better record it at future meetings.

With no changes or amendments to the plan or agreement our position that this redevelopment plan is not "ready for prime-time" stands. However, as can be seen summarized at the end of the video, we can hopefully expect some or all of the following changes:

* Provide Proof of Financial Commitments - This could take the form of letters from financial institutions committing to financing this project.

* Progress Milestones in the Agreement - If implemented properly this could create a series of progress checkpoints the developer would have to hit during construction to avoid having the tax abatement be reconsidered or possibly rescinded.

* Union Specific Language - Add language to require that union labor / contractors be used on all aspects of the project's construction. Though there were concerns raised about this practice, there doesn't appear to be an issue here (as you can see in this case, heard by the U.S. Eight Circuit Court of Appeals).

* Overland Residents Preferred - Add language to make a good faith effort to hire Overland residents whenever possible. Basically this would mean that if you have two applicants and everything else about them is equal, an Overland Resident would get the edge.

* LEED certification - Language added similar to the 8610 Page project where the developer's length of tax abatement is limited to the level of LEED certification the development receives, if any.

* A Hotel specifically restricted - Adding language to the development plan and agreement eliminating the option to build a hotel there. This could change if the developer brings a truly compelling case to the Council and they choose as a body to amend the agreement.

Overall, progress was made, but the agreement is still far from ready for a vote. Ultimately it is up to the developer to prove to the city that the development is of enough value to our community for Overland to commit to a tax abatement. So far, we don't believe that case has been made. However, we're looking forward to seeing what the new agreement and plan will look like.

One concern expressed by many around town is that the developer might be seeking the tax abatement simply to make the property more marketable for sale. When we first reported on this project the developer had the property listed on their website under both the listings of property for lease as well as listings of property available for sale. This remains to be the case (4.63 Acres for $1,495,000.00).

Though all the restrictions of the agreement would transfer to a new owner along with the tax abatement, we would still like to know if it is possible to restrict the transfer provision in someway to help alleviate this concern. Perhaps it is possible to require that the development be completed before the tax abatement as well as other rights and responsibilities of the agreement could be transferred to another party? If anyone has any insights into this possibility (or anything else) please feel free to share them in the comments below.

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